Live chat for finals @ US Open 2010.
Posted by tennisplanet on September 11, 2010
M
TP, you may need a new thread just for the final tomorrow.
Anyone else think so …?
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Growltiger said
I have a feeling the Fed-Djoko semi was the real final. EXCITING tennis. On the edge of my seat. Wonder if Djoko has anything left over for Nadal, or if Fed would have had anything left either. This is what Djokovic and Nadal did to each other in Madrid allowing Fed to win (2009). As a Djokovic fan, I am thrilled, but by set five, I didn’t want either one to lose. Congratulations Novak and Roger, you made tennis exciting.
Jenny said
I was obviously rooting for Roger, but I’m pretty chilled out about his defeat, Nole deserved his victory, I think we’re all agreed. Today I’m just going to watch and enjoy hopefully a competitive match. Can’t ask for more.
Vr said
Totally agree. Was there screaming my lungs off and was devastated when Roger lost. But Djoko was fantastic. Hope he wins the finals now that he got his rain delay and sholed get the rest he deserved.
chieko said
😆
Bettyjane said
John McEnroe is always but ALWAYS harping on the unfairness to the health of players at Wimbledon of the lack of a 5th set tiebreak. The extreme example of course being the recent Isner/Mahut match. But what about the unfairness of having the semifinalists having no day off in between here at the Open? This has affected finals before and it will continue to do so. Lendl/Cash being the obvious example. McEnroe dismantled Lendl the next day.
I would imagine McEnroe isn’t going to knock his employer as this is an obvious conflict of interest.
M said
I think it may be a question of “choose your unfairness”, unfortunately, Bettyjane. I also remember the AO 09 scheduling getting a little crazy.
“I would imagine McEnroe isn’t going to knock his employer as this is an obvious conflict of interest.”
I would imagine too. I think even the mighty JMac has finally learned some tact and circumspection. 😛
Bjornino said
Hoping for a great final! It starts at 16.00 NYC time, right?
Bjornino said
Hoping for a great final! It starts at 16.00 (NY time), right?
Bettyjane said
The official U.S. Open site says “not before 4:35” so you’re a half hour early. For those vieweing via CBS, they MAY delay this start time or merely break in slightly late as they often do depending on the football game.
Jenny said
Sky have it scheduled live for 21.00 GMT, I think you’re an hour ahead of us in the UK, Bjornino?
Vr said
If you watched Sky, you may have seen me in their promo screaming for Fed outside Ashe
Bjornino said
Thank you both! Yes, when it’s 21.00 in the UK it’s 22.00 in Sweden (although I am in Germany now, but it’s the same ^^)
MM said
Great match-I agree and think there should be a full day off before the final-I saw Nole beat Fed in Melbourne but Roger was ill then, yesterday he wasn’t-Fed had 2 match points and let Novak slip away-I don’t think he’s going to have a lot left for Rafa today, an extra day to rest would make for a better final.
Man, did Kim find the zone her last few matches? Holee cow! can she hit.
claire said
Raining in Flushing Meadows NOW! To find up to date weather go to http://www.qwickcast.com and zip code for Flushing Meadows is 11375! Let’s all pray for rain all day – I want Djokovic to be 100% when playing Nadal – he will need to be!
http://www.qwikcast.com/cgi-bin/forecast.cgi?zip=11375&GO.x=20&GO.y=8&GO=bogus
claire said
Raining in Flushing Meadows righ now – doesn’t look too good – Djokovic must be ecstatic!
chieko said
Oh great. I want him to be well rested to be fair also. Good luck Joker san.
Haya said
Oh Claire, I thought you’ll be rooting for Djokovic today 🙂
I am.. for the first, and perhaps, the last time 😛
claire said
2:30 ET – no rain – juniors are playing their finals! 😦
M said
For those who wanted to see it but missed it (and remember Roger in his red in the AO booth!) –
Rafa commentating in the ESPN booth
M said
Somebody Else said
Gilbert, c’mon, you know full well he scouts opponents anyway, and that he doesn’t need some booth.
Jenny said
The final has been officially abandoned. Source: Sky. It will be played on Monday.
Ricke said
Nole looked pretty excited when Mary Jo interviewed him after the official announcement.
Bettyjane said
Thanks very much Jenny. I find it incredulous that US Open’s site was a solid 10 minutes behind Sky in breaking the news.
Jenny said
The Sky comms and pundits are all on site. You can bet the players were sent back to their hotel earlier than that. We got to see an interesting mini docu about Peter Fleming who was born in New Jersey and now lives in the UK. I know he was Mac’s doubles partner for years, but didn’t know he reached #8 in the world in singles. LOL One of the orginal treetops at 6’5″.
birce ege said
had tickets for the final hoping for a federer-nadal final.. even if it didn’t rain today in ny, i wasn’t interested in the nadal-djokovic final.. all credit to nole, but i just feel we’ve been stripped from another clash of the titans after feddie’s loss unfortunately.. i put my ticket with the re-sell option, for a cheaper price that i got it for, so far no calls since yesterday evening. i guess i’m not the only disappointed one!!
Somebody Else said
I would still want to be around for that match. It’s a U.S. Open final!!!
AND, it’s between two top players who have a rivalry of their own.
M said
Sigh.
SE, while I agree Rafa and Nole’s final has the potential to become its own classic — they will both be rested, each has the chance to become a first-time US Open finalist, Rafa will be playing for his Career Golden Slam — though his (her?) comment might inch slightly close to soliciting ?), I sympathize with Birce Edge.
Especially as they’ve become more special occasions as they’ve become more rare, some of us really, really wanted a FEDAL final.
(Maybe even more of us than I thought.)
P.S. Off-topic — did you get that link I sent you about the HTML?
Jenny said
Me too, whoever was playing, and I’m a Fed fan. Just goes to show there’s nothing guaranteed in tennis.
Somebody Else said
I was anticipating FEDAL too, but it didn’t happen. What’s interesting about Nadovak is its air of uncertainty, especially now with this rain postponement. I’m comfortable in Fed’s semifinal loss, suspecting he, based on that Saturday display, might not have been at an optimum level to potentially prevail in the final — and that is no fun for me. He should go try things out with Annacone, tighten up some bolts and screws.
Somebody Else said
M, yeah, I got the HTML message you sent me.
Thanks. I can’t wait to go crazy with the italics!!! jk 😛
Vr said
In terms of nuts and bolts being tightened, for Fed to have that many UEs after five matched with a 50+ ad in winners, something was wrong. It is not something a coach can fix. And the forehand errors. Running and otherwise. They were (are) mind boggling. He didn’t show up for the second set and almost didn’t for the fourth. I wonder if his back was acting up. I was there and saw, as all could on TV also, that he wasn’t moving AT ALL in the second. He needs to decrease his mis hits.
I am convinced of his genius. He needs real rest. I think he has his motivation now (he said so) and needs to get his back to be ok so he comes back on top in 2011.
chieko said
Thanks Vr san. I think you are right. Please enjoy your final and please take pictures to show us if you can.
birce ege said
yeah i can understand nole and nadal have their own thing going on but this was the only slam we never got to see a fed-nadal final. everybody here in ny was really looking forward it. there was already a lot of hype pre-built. after the soderling QF i definitely had my money on for this final. i can almost easily say fed even draws much more celebs than anybody else. i wouldn’t be surprised if nole pulls this one off tomorrow- given the fact that he had a good amount of rest today..
as for federer, i watched his post game interview, i think he wasn’t looking horrible but definitely a lot of disappointment though, especially after the 2 match points he had. i think it took a lot of balls (not the yellow ones) for nole to save those points, he has grown mentally.. oh and by the way, if anybody is interested in my final ticket, feel free to e-mail me at birceege@gmail.com, i am willing to give them out for free. they are electronic tickets so all you have to do is scan them..
good night new york.
claire said
Don’t you want to see Nadal get his career slam??? Of course there is no doubt he will win today- being a 100% given – just give Nadal the trophy why go through the motions???! I’m soooo sick of this BS!! Poor Djokovic – he got the same crap before he played Federer! Do it again Djokovic!!!!
I watched Sports Center last night – I wanted to throw-up?? Why does Nadal get all this hipe – I don’t remember it when Federer won his career slam at FO, etc.,etc. – what is it about Nadal?? When he begins to match or pass Federer’s 16GS, then you can say he’s the GOAT (I personally don’t believe in this GOAT thing).
We don’t know what the future will bring for anyone including Nadal given his past knee problems. Yea, what treatment is Nadal getting for those knees?? Is it good for Nadal long term for his health. Seems like whatever they are doing needs to be done on a regular basis. Wonder if ATP knows/needs to know what the treatment is? Didn’t he get another one after Wimby?
birce ege said
i have no problem with nadal completing his career slam. the point is i do not care to be there. if it was nadal vs fed and nadal still prevailed, i would still come to watch the game. i am not sure what the mentioned bs is here. certain people enjoy watching fed, certain people nole, or certain people may even enjoy me playing.. there is nothing wrong here. it’s not like i’m taking credit away from any one of them. if there were only 2 channels and 1 tv in my house available, and if one was was the tennis channel showing nole-rafa final and the other channel was a rubbish talk show, i would still probably be watching the talk show (providing the pam shriver is not the host or the guest!!!). ok, i confess, i would switch back and forth to see some points of the final..
Jenny said
This is the great thing, Birce Ege, we have a choice to support who we want, watch any match we want. As we would say in the UK, ‘you pays your money, you takes your choice’. I will be watching the final and hopefully some great tennis. I’m hoping Sky will show it after yesterday’s disruption. If not, I’ll hunt for a stream.
jett09 said
Claire I know that Roger’s loss really hit you hard, but try to relax. USO is over and there are plenty of matches to look forward too and Roger will be back 😉 . Take care.
Anonymous said
Claire: why are you such a sore loser re Fed and why are you so bitter about Rafa? Why do you begrudge Nadal his success or is it just that in your world only Fed is allowed to shine and have attention? You will have to get used to things changing..the one certainty about sporting excellence is that it does not last forever and someone else always, but always, comes along to change the landscape.
And what exactly are you insinuating about Nadal’s recent treatment? This treatment is well-documented, researched and permitted.
Disappointing…
tennisplanet said
Nadal’s tunnel interview: Read “Get out of my face. I am about to start scratching before …………”
Bjornino said
Nadal had the Eye of the Tiger already in the tunnel. Does not bode well for Djoko ^^
Kitty said
C Freaking BS showing college football?! I had to go to fromsport again.
They just make Nadal wait for 40sec at the interview before leaving to the court – a payback to his semifinal match where he arrived 2min late to the interview?? lol 😀
Kitty said
ok take it back they started showing again now
Jenny said
LOL Kitty, Sky had NASCAR scheduled, but they’ve seen sense and showing the final!
Bjornino said
Nadal entering Arthur Ashe Stadium accompanied by Wagner’s “Ride of The Valkyries” 😀
(“In Norse mythology, a valkyrie (from Old Norse valkyrja “chooser of the slain”) is one of a host of female figures who decide who will die in battle. The valkyries bring their chosen to the afterlife hall of the slain, Valhalla, ruled over by the god Odin.”)
So Nadal is actually a girl who will bring Djokovic to Valhalla? 🙂
Jenny said
I listen to Wagner.
Bjornino said
I love Wagner. The greatest music 🙂
Jenny said
Me too and played very loudly! 🙂 Did you know he used to own Newfoundland dogs? Love them too!
Bjornino said
He was nuts 🙂 But what a genious!
I didn’t know about the dogs, no. Nice 🙂
Bjornino said
He was nuts! 🙂 But what a genious! My fav operas of his are “Holländer”, “Walküre” and “Rheingold”. (and “Lohengrin” LOL)
What are your fav Wagner operas?
Didn’t know abt the dogs. Nice 🙂
Jenny said
Those you mention and Tristan and Isolde – Prelude and “Leiberstod”. I just enjoy them all.
From Wiki: “Russ – last dog of Richard Wagner, buried at the feet of his master in the composer’s tomb in the park of Villa Wahnfried in Bayreuth, under his own plaque: “Here rests and watches Wagner’s Russ.” 🙂
Bjornino said
Aaaaw, that’s a beautiful quote 🙂
tennisplanet said
Hugely surprisingly Nadal got a far louder reception coming out of the tunnel than Djokovic considering most are Federer fans. If that means something, Nadal will turn into a rock star for New York fans as he possess all ingredients New Yorkans love.
Bjornino said
Indeed!
Kitty said
High quality rallying already! Nadal looks so focussed
Joy said
Hi everyone, it’s 4AM here, I’m bleary-eyed & trying to wrap my head around why it’s good to ‘pronate into the ball’ (comm Luke Jensen said it). Help, anyone?
Bjornino said
Nothing Luke J says should be taken seriously, so just enjoy the match 😉
Joy said
LOL, probably a good idea, since he just threw in the phrase ‘he Keeblers the shot’ which, again leaves me baffled. Or crackered. LOL
Bjornino said
LOL Luke J ist such a goon. Another this he ALWAYS does is to say: “He has a NICE LITTLE backhand” or “a NICE LITTLE slice”. “Nice little” WILL be in every second sentence from LJ’s big mouth 😛
Anonymous said
as long as it is not prognate into the ball, it’s fine!
ricky said
it was me!
Joy said
Or rather ‘pronates MORE into the ball’, sorry 🙂
Bjornino said
Djokovic totally thrashed that raquet. Nadal will break him down from now on.
Jenny said
He needs to move on from that and not waste energy. I’m wondering about his stamina and this is just the first set!
ricky said
as long as it is not “prognate” into the ball it is fine!
Julien said
Wow that raquet just didn’t see that coming ! Hope Djoko finds his pace, he already looks exhausted !
tennisplanet said
Does Djokovic look tired already or is he just playing games? The rallies are getting longer and longer making that a very real possibility.
ricky said
what is his share on the final cut?
tennisplanet said
Nadal playing with ton of authority and this is just the first set AND is after a rain delay.
tennisplanet said
I have a feeling that once this match is done we are going to say this: Wonder what would it have been like if there was no rain.
Jenny said
A storm is forecast in the next couple of hours.
Joy said
Any reason why they didn’t just hold this a couple of hours earlier, just for safety?
Bjornino said
Bagel/breadstick smörgåsbord?
tennisplanet said
Djokovic is serving at nearly 80% but has won just 52% of the pts on first serve. Once that first serve percentage dips, Nadal will move in for the kill.
tennisplanet said
Someone printing / sewing / engraving No. 9 somewhere already?
tennisplanet said
Turkey necks have announced that they will build the roof here once US Open final begins to jeopardize WTF – finals.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic winning three sets now after Nadal has won the first one is like Murray winning a Slam.
Bjornino said
TP, your last 3 posts were very funny 🙂
I think you and Novak should do a comedy act together 🙂
Jenny said
Good hold for Novak, second set.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic’s backhand starting to do damage.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic should go after Nadal’s backhand with far more urgency. What’s there to lose now?
Haya said
.. and with consistency.. he has to shake Nadal’s confidence.. I believe that despite winning the first set, Nadal, with this showing, proves that he doesn’t belong to this surface.. Djokovic has to keep reminding him of this every single point!
O Roger, where art thou?! 😦
jett09 said
Vamos Rafa!! I’m happy that you won the first set! Keep going.
tennisplanet said
Match looks quite evened up in the second set. Djokovic has moved up.
tennisplanet said
There’s some life. Nadal is broken.
ricky said
Nole just woke up, no more shyness towards n°1!
jett09 said
Indeed!
Haya said
Have you just jinxed him? 😛
tennisplanet said
Djokovic’s realization that he is down a set is opening up his game as pressure is released opening up the door for his natural game. If Djokovic keeps this up Nadal’s only shot will be to tire him.
tennisplanet said
WOW that first serve from Nadal hit the freaking baseline.
Anonymous said
Nadal is so wound up he is close to being negative.
ricky said
go on like this Nole and the trophy is yours…
Haya said
Amen!
tennisplanet said
Djokovic has realized that he may really be able to lift that trophy today. Belief transfer in progress.
Haya said
what about now? 😦
Chicago fan said
Rafa looks so nervous and tentative. If Novak wins this, I will be crushed.
I’m not sure Rafa will have a chance at another U.S. Open.
Vamos, Rafa!
Haya said
So, you believe this is a one-time visit? And you want him to win it.. what a well deserved Career Slam then!!
Anyways, I second what you said, except for I don’t want him to win it.. sorry 🙂
Chicago fan said
He deserves it more than Novak, who is not in the same league.
Also, Federer and Nadal have consistently been at the top. Rafa is only a year older than Novak and is 7 slams ahead of him. His place in tennis history is secure, even if he wins nothing else. And yes, it would be a very well-deserved career slam.
With that said, I fully acknowledge that this is Novak’s best surface. However, his game, his serial retirements, his constant complaining and temper tantrums, and the attitude of his parents does nothing for me.
Vamos, Rafa all the way!
tennisplanet said
Djokovic’s face is shrinking so fast that the whole thing may become all one big nose anytime now.
tennisplanet said
Good sign Nadal is in panic mode: Tries to take EVERY ball on his forehand.
ricky said
I read his forehead, is it why it’s so creased?
tennisplanet said
Why Djokovic has a smaller window to close this match – in four sets: This is Nadal who WILL force you into longer rallies unlike Federer AND Nadal is lot stronger than Federer in five sets.
tennisplanet said
Nadal is just killing it with his volleys. WOW.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic is loving the shoulder ball as there’s no depth on it. If Nadal gets depth it will be tough.
tennisplanet said
You cannot freaking let Nadal earn aces on top of what else he can do to you.
Bryan_B said
Nadal looks like he is possesed again.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic win depends on how successfully he can engage Nadal’s backhand.
tennisplanet said
It’s that time again – 4 all – time when the need for break intensifies.
Jenny said
And what a time for rain! Urrgh!
Haya said
Other than stupidity, what do you think the reason behind losing 3 (and now perhaps 4) consecutive games?!!
Bryan_B said
Djokovic is lying when he said he doesn’t know how to invite rain. 🙂
tennisplanet said
If Nadal loses this match, it will be blamed on rain that not only refreshed Djokovic but it also softened him up with complacency. It WILL be his worst loss of his career – hands freaking down.
Kitty said
Nadal will prove to everyone that he won this against all possible odds. Did’nt you realize the tennis gods were with him. They gave him an easy draw and since they did’nt want anyone to point out that djoker did’nt get enough rest they even got the rains on sunday.
Jenny said
Bjornino, Go to your mailbox. A nice interlude during this rain delay.
Bjornino said
I am eating an amazing German Redcurrant cake to amuse myself during the rain delay, and I shall now check my mailbox with pleasure to find more entertainment 🙂 thank you!
Bjornino said
Jenny, Thank you SO much! 😀 Loving it. Longer answer in your mailbox ^^
Bjornino said
OMG I am listening to the “Liebestod” now and it’s so amazing 🙂 Stephen Fry has tears in his eyes…
Jenny said
Usually happens to me when I listen to it! It’s almost outerwordly. Listen to Jessye Norman’s version!
Bjornino said
Well imo noone beats Birgit Nilsson. The greatest wagnerian soprano ever. The GOAT 😉
Chicago fan said
Ugh, this going to go into Tuesday, which completely favors Nole. The rain is allowing him to hit the reset button over and over again.
Sorry, Rafa. I’m pulling for you, but the weather is obviously not.
ricky said
because it it is not a fair weather
ricky said
because the weather is rooting for Nole
ricky said
because the real final was on saturday and Nole won
tennisplanet said
How rain is working for both Nadal and Djokovic even though for one it’s not as obvious: Djokovic – rest. Duh. Nadal – removing extenuating circumstances from easy draw, tired finalist opponent etc. as best as it can under current conditions.
Haya said
What’s with the tunnel interviews?! What’s the point? Why don’t they leave those players alone?!
Djokovic looks tired already, like he didn’t get any sleep yesterday!
Game over!
Jenny said
Agreed, these tunnel interviews are so unneccesary, it didn’t used to be that way.
Kitty said
question: are players allowed to talk to coaches once they go back to locker rooms? I heard somewhere that they can but doesn’t make sense why they would allow that?
Arjun said
Why should they stop it? They’re tennis players, not prisoners
If the match is postponed to Tuesday, they won’t be kept locked in a room until they can finish the match
Kitty said
i understood that for long time delays, but short delays…makes sense we can’t differentiate between them..thanks!
Bettyjane said
To alert U.S. viewers. When the match resumes it will be on ESPN2 NOT CBS.
Chicago fan said
Is it just my imagination, or have they brought out the drying machines? (Viewing on usopen.org).
Chicago fan said
Oooh, if they carry on playing today, then my favorite Spaniard still has a fighting chance.
Jenny said
Stopped raining!
Hope said
play should B resumed soon right ?
Haya said
Do US Open organizers know the concept of the “roof”? If not, somebody please tell them!
Jenny said
I can understand a roof on the huge court might be a real problem, but why don’t they cover the court when it rains, like everyone one else does whhere there’s no roof, it would cut down on drying time at least. I heard it was because it wasn’t pleasing to the eye, duh!
Bettyjane said
lol! I read this morning that there’s a committee that’s supposed to seriously look into it and that it would cost around 150 million dollars.
Jenny said
Covering the actual court 150 million dollars?!
Haya said
But Wimbledon (which is located in England!!!) now has one, so why can’t the US Open?
I didn’t mean a permanent roof btw 🙂
Bettyjane said
the roof would cost that, lol. Sorry Jen. They’d have to reconfigure the footings.
Haya said
What I meant by the “England” remark is that English people are the most resistent to change.. they like sticking to their norms.. at least this is what I know 🙂
Jenny said
LOL Thanks, Bettyjane. I thought they might commission covers made of platinum or gold! I can understand the huge cost if a roof is involved. It might be cheaper to pull it down and start from scratch including a roof.
Jenny said
The LTA had been considering a roof for ages, they needed to, especially with our weather! LOL Haya, Most Brits welcome change, we’re all over the place, eg Spain and France, have you been to the Spanish Costas lately?! 🙂
Haya said
Oh, then I shoud learn more 🙂
England tops my list of places I wish to visit 😉
Jenny said
Some good stuff, some not so good. I’m sure you will be made most welcome 🙂
Jenny said
Haya, The big cities like central London are very cosmopolitan and lively. Folk in some rural areas can be reserved, but polite.
Joy said
Jenny, my family was fortunate enough to visit London when I was a young teen. We all ended up in the streets in our pajamas because of a bomb scare at our hotel, LOL. But I absolutely loved the trip, and wished I could stay inside the British Museum forever, living on fish n’ chips from the pub (tasted great & was nothing at all like the ones in my country).
Bettyjane said
The players have just returned to the court.
Lousy point for Djoker to have to come back to. If loses the first point he’s down break and Rafa just can serve out the 2nd set.
Bettyjane said
meant to say at break point down
tennisplanet said
Nadal let Djokovic off the hook making the rain work FOR Djokovic.
tennisplanet said
Who is most likely to run up the stands after winning? Both?
Haya said
Both.. duh!
Haya said
What a passing shot!! WOW!
Why does he have to follow each awesome point with a stupid stupid mistake?!!!
tennisplanet said
Nadal ace has to be the most deflating shot for Djokovic right about now.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic’s retrieving skills getting on Nadal’s nerves.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic has Nadal’s attention. 2nd set to Djokovic.
BANTI said
Novak not afraid to take it to him. Still going with Novak in 4. Go Djoker.
tennisplanet said
Nadal has allowed Djokovic to own the most precious commodity – Belief.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic broke Nadal TWICE in the second set. That is momentum changing.
Haya said
Amen!!!
Jenny said
Great match so far. Even, a set apiece.
Haya said
I’d say it’s a good one 🙂
BANTI said
Only person to win a GS on a hard court without dropping a set is still Roger Federer. Thank god for that:)
Haya said
So, this is what remains for us Fed fans, history? Noooooo 😥
tennisplanet said
Could this (second set loss) be the kick in the pants Nadal needed?
chieko said
🙄
jett09 said
Hi Chieko Chan 😉
chieko said
Hi Jetto9 san, I hope you are enjoying the match. I just come in 😀
jett09 said
Enjoying it tremendously Chieko Chan, thank you. I’m suppose to meet up visiting relatives 10 minutes ago for a picnic….I’m afraid I will be very very late 😕
Haya said
*sigh*
Haya said
Djokovic is so inconsistent!
tennisplanet said
Don’t you think Djokovic wants to wipe the sweat from his hair real bad but can’t do it for fear of turning into fur ball?
chieko said
🙄 😆
chieko said
Eating a lot of seaweed will give you black and thick hair, that is what we believe in in Japan. I wonder what they eat in Serbia to have so black and thick beautiful hair 😕
tennisplanet said
Djokovic’s dilemma: Can’t get a clean winner because of Nadal’s speed on the court and don’t want long rallies. Has to pull the trigger to keep it short and last longer.
Haya said
Nadal’s speed?
Jenny said
And a clay court MO, War of Attrition. Nole needs cheap points.
Ricke said
Nole’s mom keeps disappearing.
chieko said
Nervousness usually makes one want to go to the washroom I think.
Jenny said
Nole needs a second wind now to survive, he is being ground down.
Haya said
He has to keep Nadal moving right to left!
Jenny said
He’s fighting.
Haya said
… inconsistently though 😦
tennisplanet said
Nadal’s unforced errors are keeping Djokovic alive. He has 23 already.
Ricke said
Wow that was a great hold for Nole.
Bettyjane said
mentally exhausting though. Geeeez!
Jenny said
Nole’s trying his best. As you say, it’s mentally exhausting, Bettyjane. Not too much he can do, Rafa keeps coming back.
BANTI said
If Novak breaks back and wins this set, match to Novak. If not Rafa takes it.
BANTI said
simple strategy, hit to his backhand, and slap the crap out of the floaters he keeps putting back in teh middle of the court.
tennisplanet said
Djokovic may have already earned his colors by taking the first set of the tournament from Nadal. Any more is all gravy further strengthening Nadal earning it notion.
tennisplanet said
Go to Nadal’s backhand. Geezzzzzz!!!!!!!!!
jett09 said
TP that’s coaching!! 👿
chieko said
Exactly Jett09 san good reminder, no coaching from the web !!! Please 🙄
Jenny said
🙂
Haya said
Perhaps he’s just remembered that Nadal is a leftie!
Ricke said
I have Dish network TV and they had the final listed in the guide today, but Oprah was on instead! I had to watch online till the rain delay. Now they have it on ESPN, but the guide shows the”World Series of Poker” listed! They would never do this to the NFL…..
tennisplanet said
Wonder who Nadal’s sister looks like.
Haya said
LOL.. you just noticed!!!!
chieko said
😕
Haya said
Hey TP! Why wasn’t my comment posted? 😦
I said “LOL.. you just noticed!!!!” .. that she’s a copy of Nadal himself I mean.. that’s too obvious!
😦 😦
Haya said
Oh sorry, you already did.. wonder why it took so long 😛
Thanx 🙂
Ricke said
Amazing rallies!
BANTI said
Novak at 0-15 produdced the best point of tournament in my eyes!
Haya said
.. to no avail 😦
Ricke said
And Rafa aced his way out of it………..I feel bad for Nole. He is fighting so hard.
chieko said
Yes indeed. I hope he is not tired.
chieko said
I agree!! Hi Banti san. 😀
BANTI said
Hey chieko good to see you enjoying the final!
BANTI said
Respect to Rafa serving so well. Novak in 5?
Jenny said
Have to credit Rafa too. He wants this trophy.
jett09 said
“He wants this trophy.”
Badly Jenny and he’s all fired up.
chieko said
I think Djoker san is serving good too to stay with Nadal san. It is so exciting. 😀
tennisplanet said
Does Nadal look more winded than Djokovic?
chieko said
Not really ?? But he looks very tense to me.
avidtennisfan73 said
Novak really does have such a feel out there, and his movement is amazing. I really do wish he pulls this through, he is giving all he’s got. No doubt, his previous match retirements seem like ancient history now..
tennisplanet said
Djokovic unloading all his horses now.
Haya said
It’s over.. he ran out of fuel already!
chieko said
Djoker san should have stopped the rally, it was an out ball. Too bad. I really think they should have spotted that ball. It was way out. 🙄
tennisplanet said
Nadal has more aces than Djokovic: 6-5.
Kitty said
Nadal looks to be IN THE ZONE…this is OVER
Jenny said
Rafa’s playing like a machine, and I don’t mean that in bad way.
Haya said
What exactly is Djokovic doing?!!
chieko said
Trying to survive as long as possible!!
Kitty said
Nadal making Djoker service game miserable each and every time.
Haya said
This can actually be attributed to Djokovic himself.. he’s playing one good point and follows it with 2 bad ones!
chieko said
Oh Djoker san was unlucky, the ball touched the net cord then bouced out. Geezzzzzz!!
tennisplanet said
Possible reason Federer doesn’t want to watch the final: He wants to delay as much as possible knowing Nadal matched his career Slam record and is at No. 9. And not watching it may make it NOT happen.
Jenny said
Fed’s in bed, TP! Time difference.
chieko said
😆 He may be watching , we never know !!
Jenny said
3.30am CET. If I were in Roger’s shoes, I wouldn’t be watching at this time of the day, Cheiko san. I should be in bed myself!
Bjornino said
I am just as sure that he’s watching this as I was sure he watched the Wimby final. Regardless of what he says in the pressers.
chieko said
I think Nadal san is very confident and determined than ever now.
Kitty said
When Nadal gets into his groove he sort of locks himself into it, you have to make him play differently, as I see its Nadal who is dictating play here and its good night for Nole. Well deserved Rafa!
Haya said
Dear Kitty, a reality check.. Djokovic is exhausted 🙂
Jenny said
Street London east end, ‘cream crackered’ – knackered.
BANTI said
Congrads to Rafa. In beating Djokovic I’ll concede he finally deserves this win. Take care all i’m out.
Jenny said
Good night, take care, Banti 🙂
Ricke said
Nadal is on cruise control now……………..
Kitty said
I seldom seen people serving as well as they really can when playing Nadal..wonder why? Only seen Tsonga do it to him
tennisplanet said
Nadal can see the finish freaking line.
chieko said
I am afraid it is obvious that Nadal san is playing better now. Sorry to Djoker san, he really fights hard. 😦
Jenny said
I think it’s safe for you to come out now, M! 🙂
jett09 said
😆 yeah M come out now, you’re missing an exciting match 😉
Jenny isn’t there a saying “it’s not over until the fat lady sings?”
Jenny said
Yes, there is that saying, Jett 🙂 Not in this case I feel.
M said
Ladies, as it turns out, thanks to some very good luck and some very good friends, I was there!
Pics to follow (link in moderation right now).
Or, if you can’t wait, go to the main album and then to the folder named “USO 2010 Final – Rafa and Nole”.
🙂
jett09 said
NO WAY!! You are soo lucky M! 😉
M said
I was incredibly lucky, Jett – I didn’t think I’d get to go to the final. I’m sure (I hope 😛 ) TP will put up the link to the album later today.
Did you get a chance to see the pictures from Roger’s fourth round and Rafa’s quarter-final, too? 🙂
jett09 said
And all that time M, I thought you were hiding! 😆 Wow how did you handle the live match?? Wasn’t it exciting? Nole was sooo good too and very charming during his speech. Bless him.
Yes thank you M, I have seen the pictures and they were wonderful, thank you. I have been busy with relatives hence I haven’t been posting much.
Now that the USO is over, I can catch up on some good sleep 😉
M said
“Yes thank you M, I have seen the pictures and they were wonderful, thank you. I have been busy with relatives hence I haven’t been posting much.”
Of course! Always the consummate hostess, you. 😀
I just wanted to make sure you hadn’t missed anything you wanted to see.
(In focus or no 😛 Hopefully I’ll be improved next year.)
“Wow how did you handle the live match??”
I was so nervous one of the ushers remarked on the look on my face as I tried to find my seat.
😯 😕
“Now that the USO is over, I can catch up on some good sleep ;)”
LOL. The USO, the Emmys, the MTV Music Awards … you and me both, I hope.
Sweet dreams.
😀
Jenny said
LOL M! I thought you were quiet last night, or possibly peeking out from under a blanket! How great for you, what a match and atmosphere! Congrats to you both 🙂
jett09 said
“I was so nervous one of the ushers remarked on the look on my face as I tried to find my seat”.
😆 😆 you are sooo funny M.
Oh one more thing, I have read that beautiful poem you made, very clever M, super brilliant! I was just too busy to comment. More More More pleaseeee 😉
jett09 said
Thanks Jenny.
M said
Well, Jenny, you know I was torn at first because that wasn’t the match I was looking for.
I *did* only peek at Roger and Nole on LiveScore – I didn’t even watch. I’ve been working a lot — in other universes, things like the MTV Awards are going on, lol — and it doesn’t do to turn up to places all red-eyed and miserable.
And also, I knew Rafa was going to have his hands full, and I wasn’t sure I could handle him losing on top of Roger having lost.
And then I was fortunate to receive a ticket, and *then* I wasn’t even sure I’d get out of the office in time to see even part of the match. And then there was the rain delay! And then I thought to myself, “M, you will *kick* yourself if Rafa makes history and you *could* have gone and were not there. Get out there, now!”
And so I went. And got some nice shots!
(Though mixed in with a few that still show I’m a newbie, lol. I’m *so* jealous of the ones in “More Photos” that the sports photogs got. But then, I don’t have a big honking lens like what those guys carry around. They look like they could *literally* shoot someone, lol.)
🙂
M said
LOL, thank you, Jett! I did try to muster up something that would be appropriate for this session’s photos, as well. We’ll see how I did. 😛
(Seriously! The usher was like, “Miss, I know you’re very concerned about what’s happening down there. But I have to ask you to keep moving and find your seat. It’ll be okay.” LOL!!)
Somebody Else said
This gent would also enjoy seeing the photos! Congrats on scoring a seat for the match!
M said
It was thanks to the largesse of another forlorn FEDAL fan.
Bittersweet. I’m very very grateful.
And the link is in Wanna Post, SE – it should be up later today if the regular password doesn’t work right away now.
🙂
Bettyjane said
Congrats in advance to Rafa. Be interesting to see how he fares in future opens with the champ from last year in the mix.
BANTI said
🙂 yes.
avidtennisfan73 said
Wow, Nadal looks pretty invincible out there now! Nothing will stop him now, he is bulldozing through this…(including #16, I’m afraid).
Bettyjane said
Blake should be making an appearance momentarily I should think!
jett09 said
Yeah where is Blake??
Somebody Else said
😆 When the going gets good, eh?
Jenny said
LOL Bettyjane, I was real slow last night given the late hour and exhaustion of the match, for a minute I thought why would JAMES Blake be there!! 🙂
M said
😆
Kitty said
Nadal has been very very very lucky with the draw but he really played amazing today! Roger’s record doesn’t seem too far away now, a BIG turning point for GOAT contention
Haya said
Waaaaaaaaaay toooooooooo early to judge 😉
Besides, this GOAT BS has to either go to the trash or be linked with the players overall skills!
Jenny said
I say wait until the two R’s both retire.
Haya said
Yeah, at least!!!
M said
“I say wait until the two R’s both retire.”
Hear hear.
In my little mailbox intro here I uttered a fervent prayer that the “GOAT debate” would die a well-deserved death. Looks like I need to step it up.
Jenny said
I uttered a fervent prayer that the “GOAT debate” would die a well-deserved death.
Hear, hear to that too. Each to his own, but I stay away from GOAT debates. The majority of records will be broken eventually.
Jill said
Yes M, please step it up on the prayer front the whole thing is getting really tiresome!!!!!! lol
M said
Sorry, Jill – I’ve been a little busy.
😆
chieko said
Poor Djoker san.
tennisplanet said
Nadal two points away.
Bjornino said
In a few minutes he will become the youngest player in history to win all 4 grand slam tournaments 🙂
Kitty said
Rafa ordered Aunt Toni to wear shorts every time to complete his superstition rituals
Haya said
What’s with the net and linesmen siding with Nadal? 😛
Jenny said
Nole is winning hearts in New York.
Haya said
I wish he did this with a cup in his hands 😦
claire said
I totally agree with you Jenny. I’m totally impressed with how Djokovic presented himself at the Open. I prefer him over Nadal – Djokovic has more to say than “I have to play my best”, ” I don’t know if I can win” so forth and so on!!!!! Djokovic has a personality. By this time Nadal should have more to say and be more personable!
Congrats to Nadal – I totally convinced he’s half man, half bull!!!
Let’s see how long that body can hold up – looking forward to next year!
tennisplanet said
Championship point = unforced error coming up?
Bjornino said
GOAT! 😀
Haya said
HUH??????????????????
BANTI said
lol at this. Not close.
claire said
Ditto Banti – Nadal has a long way to go to surpass Federer – he may just do it, but way to soon to call Nadal the GOAT! I still wonder how long Nadal’s body will hold up!
Jenny said
Currently Rafa is the best player and why he’s #1, but Roger’s 16 slams and 63 titles is the target to beat, Rafa’s not there yet – 9/42.
chieko said
That is over !! Congrat to both players.
tennisplanet said
Not climbing the stands?
Haya said
LOL 😛
Haya said
You really made me laugh TP.. like you kept watching all the time just to watch this happen.. awwwww, sorry for your dissapointment 😛
Good night all 🙂
Jenny said
Congrats Rafa for the title, No 9, career grand slam, amazing 🙂 Congrats Nole and now #2 in the rankings:-)
Great match 🙂
Bjornino said
What a great match, and such great players and persons. I wish the world for Djokovic. I hope he will win MANY slams! (after Nadal gets to 16 😉 )
Haya said
Why 16? 😉
BANTI said
Yeah could be 18:) 20:)
Haya said
This is not what I meant actually 😉
Ricke said
Great match, really enjoyed it. Congrats to Rafa well deserved. Nole, you played your heart out. Keep it going!!!
Bjornino said
I really think Novak’s parents have improved, they’re not at all as obnoxious as they used to be. And somehow, in a bizarre way the tshirt thing is sort of cute 🙂
Jenny said
Agreed! They were well behaved parents! 🙂
claire said
My 13 year old son is writing a book “How to raise your Parents”!!! Maybe that’s what Djokovic is doing!
My son’t book is actually pretty good, funny!
Joy said
Nole was asked about his parents’ tees, and I thought it was nice of him to say that they’re parents, so they can wear whatever they want!
Bjornino said
Yeah I saw that interview. Novak is so funny and classy. I would have been very sorry if Nadal hadn’t won but Novak clearly deserves to win slams as well. A great inspiration, and I admire him even more when I think on how he’s developed as a person over the past 3 years.
Bjornino said
Novak’s so impressive. What a guy! To face such disappointment like that… Bless him!
Jenny said
Absolutely. Go rest, guys you deserve it.
jett09 said
Indeed Bjornino!!
Congrats Rafa!!
I’m out. Goodnight/Morning all 😉
Ricke said
ESPN just cut off the trophy ceremony to start Monday Night football!!!! I give up.
claire said
I think they switched to another channel – went from CBS – then ESPN2 after rain delay and I think at bottom of screen said they were switching back to CBS (I believe) at like 9ish. I missed last part, had to go somewhere!
Bjornino said
It’s gonna be an interesting fall season… Wonder if Djoko can keep this up and cement his status as world #2…?
Ricke said
I hope he does well. He seems to have a good heart. Does anyone know what kind of a medal he kisses at the end of his matches?
GEK said
His cross. I noticed his mother kisses her cross a lot before an important point, too.
jett09 said
“I hope he does well. He seems to have a good heart”
Seconded Ricke.
Haya said
He’s the most inconsistent among the 4 of them.. yes he can, but ….
jennifur said
rafa 22222 good. fur surre. congrats rafa. good try nole.
Haya said
… and WAKE UP Roger!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s missing out on a lot while he still has a lot to give!
I’m disappointed with him.. but still believe he’s the best! I wish he believes as much in himself as we do!! 😦
Joy said
Got carted off by an ambulance when my blood pressure went through the roof when Rafa dropped set 2. So what did I miss?
LOL Kidding of course- i’m over the moon! But what impressive play from both. Nice speech from Nole. And how nice of him to offer to hold the 1.7M checque so that Rafa would have both hands free to hoist the trophy! LOL
claire said
I’m really enjoying Djokovic’s personality – he’s really very likable.
jett09 said
I agree with you Claire, Nole is very likable.
claire said
I think when Federer looks at these 2, it won’t matter if Nadal wins more than 16!
Look at my post on “wanta post” !
Chicago fan said
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! Congrats to Rafa! He so deserved it! I am very happy for him.
Re: the GOAT conversation. Roger is still the GOAT, but it’s really too soon to have that conversation. Both are still active.
With that said, full credit to Nole. He was very gracious at the trophy ceremony, and his parents are improving. Although I don’t think he has the most exciting game, he is starting to grow on me.
jett09 said
Thumbs up Chicago Fan 😉
Somebody Else said
What a phenomenal player, this Nadal kid. He has the sharpest learning curve of any player I’ve seen. His determination and focus is superb. I thought Fed could hold on to the throne a while longer, but clearly Rafa is in charge of the sport right now. I wonder what next year’s slam results will be. Djokovic is a player deserving of more respect. I salute him. Both of them.
Bjornino said
Djokovic’s comment on that subject after the match:
(While Djokovic would take that set, Nadal eventually would prove too tough, too swift and too good—even at the U.S. Open.)
“Nadal … is just proving each day, each year, that he’s getting better. That’s what’s so frustrating, a little bit. He’s getting better each time you play him,” Djokovic said. “He’s so mentally strong and dedicated to this sport. He has all the capabilities, everything he needs, in order to be the biggest ever.”
Somebody Else said
concerning the Slams, Federer, Nadal, history, generations:
I can’t help but wonder who will rise to challenge Nadal, the way he has challenged Federer. Historically, there’s always someone waiting in the wings who flips on the mental switch and becomes another major force at the slams. Surely, this player is a bit younger than Rafa. We’ll see how that transpires. It’s purely speculative, of course.
On another note: In a historically-contrasting sense, this current phase in the sport makes me think a bit of the situation in the 60s regarding Emerson and Laver. Emerson stayed in the amateurs and placed several multi-slam seasons. I wonder if Laver could have been as dominant at those events during those years if he had not turned pro and been absent. Would Emerson have been an obstacle to his title success, and vice versa?
My feeling: Federer should have won the French Open in 2004 😛 to get his calendar slam while he was young(er), like Graf did before Seles imposed herself at the majors.
I say that in jest, in a “he-created-a-monster” way. 😉
Interestingly, each great player this sport has had possesses unique achievements which the others do not share. It’s quite an engrossing enterprise to look back through past grand-slam stats and see who managed to do what for how long at what event, etc.
jett09 said
Djokovic said.“He’s so mentally strong and dedicated to this sport”
Spot on Nole.
jett09 said
Well said S.E. 😉
Jill said
Perhaps Del Potro will be the next challenger- need to see how his wrist is on return.
M said
Jill, I started thinking after Polito won his Stuttgart 08 championship that he might be the next serious for Rafa, after Roger. (And Nole, now, I think.) A shame about his wrist. We’ll have to see.
Bettyjane said
Great musings SE. I think most tennis fans aren’t true historians of the sport and don’t give due credit to anyone who played even half a generation before their favorite player. The “recency effect” I’ve heard it called, and for good reason.
Sol said
Congrats to Nadal!
I couldn’t watch much tennis lately but saw the end of the 3rd set and the beginning of the 4th and I think Djoko has made me a new fan. We all knew Nadal was a champ but turns out Djoko is one too. He was great yesterday. He was clearly exhausted and yet he kept fighting, no injury time-out(although it would’ve been understandable if he had called for the trainer just to get a bit of rest), no giving up or retiring, not being intimidated by Nadal’s tennis. Kudos to him. Nadal’s achievements speak for themselves but to me, the real joy was watching this new Djoko and his new attitude. It makes it easier to accept that he took the #2 spot from Roger. As for him, well, I didn’t see the match against Djoko but having 2 MP and still losing, that’s tough to swallow. I’m sure he’ll bounce back though, I’m not worried.
Bettyjane said
Those lost match points weren’t anything to lose sleep over. Djoker just went for it and connected. Wonderfully done on his part.
Sol said
Yeah, I saw those Bettyjane (saw some highlights)
He has earned my respect, to quote Jennifur, fur surrrrr
Bettyjane said
I’ve been on the fence with Djoker for a while and this fortnight pushed me over to his side!
M said
He’s grown on me too, Bettyjane. A lot.
Bettyjane said
M, Congrats. I’m not a Rafa gal as you probably know, but I’m happy for you and his fans for sure!
M said
Bettyjane, I am thrilled for Rafa as I believe he’s earned all he had.
I didn’t much care about people laughing or being not so nice as he withdrew from Wimbledon after RG 09 … just as I didn’t much care about people saying “Roger is done” through his difficult illness recovery in 08 and Rafa’s early ascendancy.
I try to be cool about their successes, like they are.
It is hard, lol. 😀
M said
“Had” and “has”.
*sigh* Long days, in the wake of the year’s last slam.
🙂
Bettyjane said
You’ve been awesomely cool throughout as always!
M said
I’m so tiiiired, though! I don’t remember being this tired after the Open last year!
(Maybe ’cause I had more time to stay in crying after last year’s semis? Polito took Rafa out in three, instead of fans having to stay with it through Roger’s five-set battle this year. IDK.)
Jenny said
“I didn’t much care about people laughing or being not so nice as he withdrew from Wimbledon after RG 09”
That stuff made me very angry, M. Rafa came to Queens pre Wimby and tried to no avail, the kid had chronic tendinitis for goodness sake, he could have stayed in Mallorca on his fishing boat!
You know Ferru got some real trash conspiracy talk [not on this site] when he retired against Rafa in Montreal last year with chronic tendinitis.
M said
I do remember that, Jenny. It makes me rather frothy when people just go off on a tear, judging players, sometimes without even any facts about what they may be fighting with.
👿
LOL. Don’t get me started again. I’m trying to be a more level-headed, serene M this year!
😛
Jenny said
I read on one site about David, ‘if it’s a Spaniard, it has to be knees’ other nasty too, he was in obvious pain, I saw it, and probably should have withdrawn from the match. Sorry, they know nothing about the player to be talking that way, the condition, and probably little about tennis. 😈 Sorry, I had to get that off my chest folks, stay calm and serene, M 🙂
BonnyBee said
It was enjoyable in sort of a sadistic way to watch Rafa beat up on Nole–and, I kept thinking, am I glad Nole beat Fed on Saturday. Wouldn’t have been anywhere near as much fun to watch Rafa beat up on poor old Roger.
How many unforced errors did Rafa have in the final? Less than 10? Did he miss at all in the last 2 sets?
There’s some new photos of Roger’s twins here:
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/album.php?aid=225674&id=21161522764
If I had those cute distractions at home, wouldn’t be able to focus on making forehands either. I love that they’re playing with balls. Look out, Bryan twins.
M said
Apparently, Bonny Bee, not only are they already little athletes, but apparently they made friends with another little person in Central Park while they were here and borrowed her ball. LOL!