Historically most former greats have had zero success at the FO in particular and clay in general leaving some wiggle room. But if you have the GOAT of clay running wild, smack in the middle of your reign, it adds that much more room for play – for legit discounting.
Translation: If Federer had not won a single match against Nadal on clay – FO or otherwise – just the fact that he managed to get to the finals so many times would have more than compensated for his dismal record given what’s on the record from the beginning of time / sport.
But a certain record injected itself – forcibly – into the equation to deny Federer that allowance. Have a clue? No, you don’t!!!!!!
It’s got something to do with these numbers: 5-4.
If Federer was to brush aside his poor showing on clay against Nadal, he shouldn’t have allowed even ONE win on ANY other surface – irrespective of how insignificant the event was. Forget about a win, EACH of those matches should have been such lopsided wins so as to leave nothing open for debate.
Not only did that not happen, Nadal won two SLAMS by beating Federer in the final – one on Federer’s home turf – GRASS. Not enough? What Federer should have achieved was actually produced by Nadal in reverse by not letting Federer extend him to five sets on clay – ever – with couple of lopsided wins to seal the deal. Still not enough? Nadal beat Federer in straight sets – on a hard court back in 2004 at the very height of Federer’s career.
Need more? Of the five times Federer has won, for two of those he was extended to five sets.
Here are the matches on surfaces not called red:
Player |
Surface |
Event |
Score |
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Round |
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Nadal |
Hard |
AO |
7-5, 3-6, 7-6(3), 3-6, 6-2 |
2009 |
Final |
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Grass |
Wimbledon |
6-4, 6-4, 6-7(5), 6-7(8), 9-7 |
2008 |
Final |
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Hard |
Dubai |
2-6, 6-4, 6-4 |
2006 |
Final |
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Hard |
Miami |
6-3, 6-3 |
2004 |
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Federer |
Hard |
Tennis Masters Cup |
6-4, 6-1 |
2007 |
Semifinal |
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Grass |
Wimbledon |
7-6(7), 4-6, 7-6(3), 2-6, 6-2 |
2007 |
Final |
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Hard |
Tennis Masters Cup |
6-4, 7-5 |
2006 |
Semifinal |
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Grass |
Wimbledon |
6-0, 7-6(5), 6-7(2), 6-3 |
2006 |
Final |
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Hard |
Miami |
2-6, 6-7(4), 7-6(5), 6-3, 6-1 |
2005 |
Final |
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